fischer
honorary peso (chingador*)
Posts: 16,271
|
Post by fischer on May 9, 2012 12:09:09 GMT -5
They didn't talk about it on baseball tonight. I watched it.
|
|
|
|
Post by The River Assassin on May 9, 2012 12:23:15 GMT -5
I'm guessing you are just trolling right now, but with you it's hard to tell so I'll bite.
First, just because you haven't heard people talk about it doesn't mean it is never talked about. Sully, Craig, and myself have all heard it talked about in the last year and half, not sure what to tell you there.
Second, you are completely missing the point. The argument wasn't how famous it would make him, it was if the blown call make it more memorable than a perfect game. You can try to argue that if you want, but I can promise you that you have heard the name Galarraga many more times than Braiden over the last two years.
|
|
fischer
honorary peso (chingador*)
Posts: 16,271
|
Post by fischer on May 9, 2012 12:47:02 GMT -5
No, no you cannot promise me that. I forgot his name until I looked up the thread.
Anyways, I took this query to the only other source I know of, our coaches office.
The results were kind of mixed.
They all agreed that when they hear the name Jim Joyce, they think of the blown call.
They all agreed that pitching a perfect game was talked about more than the blown call, and will be remembered far more often and longer.
Only one coach remembered the pitchers name, and he is a baseball coach. Every single other coach in the room (4 of us) remembered the last 3 perfect games.
One of the baseball coaches said he had heard the incident talked about on the MLB network, the rest of us hadn't heard anything of the incident at all.
I am not trolling at all. I think its absolutely absurd to make the argument that the blown call is remembered more than the real deal.
|
|
fischer
honorary peso (chingador*)
Posts: 16,271
|
Post by fischer on May 9, 2012 12:48:11 GMT -5
How would it turn out better for Galaraga? I am pretty sure Framp is insenuating it will make him more well known than the actual perfect game would have. Yea we will see instant replay. They both did handle it well and I think it may turn out better for Galaraga than had he gotten it. |
|
fischer
honorary peso (chingador*)
Posts: 16,271
|
Post by fischer on May 9, 2012 12:48:58 GMT -5
I'm not talking about the car, although his salary is prolly close to the min...which is still nice. I just think he will be remembered more for this. Not everyone is gonna remember Dallas Braden's perfect game, they will be more likely to remember Halliday's. However, Galaraga, instead of being 1 of 21 is now 1 of 1 as the only guy to have it taken away by a bad call on the last out. One may say he has the greatest perfect game ever cause he made 28 outs. Id rather have the pg and so would he but he will be remembered more for this I think. actually I KNOW that is what framp was saying |
|
fischer
honorary peso (chingador*)
Posts: 16,271
|
Post by fischer on May 9, 2012 12:50:00 GMT -5
No I don't think its better than actually havikng a perfect game, but this situation isn't going to quickkly be forgotten its gonna be shown on replays more than perfect games over the next ten years. I haven't seen this to be true at all, either. This year when there was a perfect game thrown, Baseball Tonight had replays of Halladay's and Braidens. No replay of Galaraga's game. |
|
|
|
Post by The River Assassin on May 9, 2012 13:32:06 GMT -5
Nothing that Framp said have been proven false. Initially it was right on the money, and even now I would say it is still true for the most part. I remembered Halladay from that year, but I had to look up who had the other PG. I can honestly say I can't remember the last time I even heard the name Dallas Braden, let alone saw a highlight of his PG.
Joyce appears to be the big winner in all of this, he has become the most famous out of all of them. I still think Galarraga is more famous because of it. People may not remember his name, but I doubt anyone would remember his name had it been a PG. I guess we will have to give this a little more time before we know for sure.
|
|
fischer
honorary peso (chingador*)
Posts: 16,271
|
Post by fischer on May 9, 2012 13:37:23 GMT -5
I think we can all agree about Joyce. He is the reason that its still talked about, not Galaraga.
I haven't seen much from Galaraga since then, and I even forgot his name. I definitely didn't forget Joyce, though.
We will definitely have to wait and see, but even now, perfect games are talked about far more than Galaraga's perfect game being botched. Neither Braden or Galaraga will be household names either way. They aren't that great. But Braden's name will appear when talk of perfect games come up. Joyce's name will appear when bad calls come up. Galaraga is an afterthought.
|
|
|
|
Post by P. Marf on May 9, 2012 13:56:04 GMT -5
When Joyce's name comes up Armondo's will as well
|
|
fischer
honorary peso (chingador*)
Posts: 16,271
|
Post by fischer on May 9, 2012 14:00:23 GMT -5
Only as a side effect. Not nearly as prominent as when they are talking about perfect games.
It'll be like being the pitcher who gave up 61 to Maris or 716 to Aaron. Those names are glossed over. It already happens. All of the examples here are of people talking about Joyce, not Galaraga. His name MAY be mentioned, but he isn't the story and he will fall further and further out of the meat of the story as time goes on. Joyce will too when he retires.
|
|
|
|
Post by The River Assassin on May 9, 2012 14:47:58 GMT -5
That may be true, but it's still speculation at this point. I still say his name will come up more for the missed call than the PG, but we'll just have to wait and see.
|
|
fischer
honorary peso (chingador*)
Posts: 16,271
|
Post by fischer on May 9, 2012 16:47:36 GMT -5
Fair enough
|
|
|
|
Post by P. Marf on May 9, 2012 17:32:04 GMT -5
Fine.
|
|
