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Post by sully on Mar 3, 2010 16:16:43 GMT -5
POW!
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Post by The River Assassin on Mar 3, 2010 17:02:54 GMT -5
Got bored and looked it up.
Since 1970 the big 10 has won two, that's right two MNC in football. Michigan in '97 and tOSU in '02. Penn State won their's prior to joining the big 10. In that time more than half a dozen schools have won two or more, tu included.
They haven't won one in Basketball since 2000, since '89 before that.
In baseball they haven't won a NC since 1966!
They kick ass in wrestling and hockey though, so I guess they got that going for them.
There is no doubt that the big 10 is a very historic and rich conference, but when it comes to performance on the field or court, they just don't stack up to the big boys.
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Post by fischer on Mar 3, 2010 18:35:03 GMT -5
you forgot to mention how freaking boring the teams are to watch.
They play the worst brand of football there is. No speed.
Not to mention there are no endearing teams. Nothing to like about them at all.
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Post by P. Marf on Mar 3, 2010 20:28:59 GMT -5
Yea I have to have money on the game to watch a Big 10 match up.
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Post by fischer on Mar 3, 2010 20:32:41 GMT -5
I'll watch them if there isn't anything else on.
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Post by P. Marf on Mar 3, 2010 20:33:48 GMT -5
well that too but there is usually something on. If I had to pick a team to watch in the Big 10 it would be PennSt.
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Post by fischer on Mar 3, 2010 20:35:26 GMT -5
I think I would pick wisconsin.
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Post by P. Marf on Mar 3, 2010 20:38:32 GMT -5
Yea, not bad either.
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Post by sully on Mar 4, 2010 10:23:35 GMT -5
Michigan
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Post by Ticket Mouse on Aug 18, 2010 19:07:09 GMT -5
UNR and Fresno State to the MWC. BYU is looking to go independent in football and to the WAC in all other sports with an agreement with the conference for 3-4 games a year to round out their late season schedule. I believe the exit of these two along with Boise would leave the WAC with 6 teams which would not qualify them as a conference according to the NCAA. BYU could either pursue the indy route but some of the WAC remnants may have to drop down to FCS with no sustainable regional conference or stay in the MWC at 11 teams. Word is that BYU was the brains behind the $5 exit fee the WAC agreed to after BSU left. There's no way BYU can fill a schedule without the WAC. I say BYU, TU, and Notre Dame just form their own conference and go fuck themselves.
FYI...TCU plays BYU on 10-16...the same day Nebraska plays TU.
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Post by cowtownmike on Aug 19, 2010 15:33:33 GMT -5
BYU realizes they are the big dog in the MWC and are just positioning themselves for a better deal within the MWC. They probably want the same deal tu got from the Big 12. MWC will have no option but to cave to BYU's wishes since they account for a huge percentage of attendance and television viewers in that conference.
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Post by fischer on Aug 19, 2010 15:35:28 GMT -5
hahaha this is funny to me.
all that talk about how good the MWC is, and they go and get Nevada and Fresno st.
Wow, what a conference!!
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Post by cowtownmike on Aug 19, 2010 15:38:41 GMT -5
Agree.
Adding Nevada and Fresno while losing BYU is a net loss in any book.
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Post by Ticket Mouse on Aug 20, 2010 19:13:48 GMT -5
These moves weren't an attempt to make the conference stronger (although, it does make it stronger in the middle), but rather an attempt to cut off BYU at the pass. It's actually quite balsy and funny at the same time.
BYU decided that the little conference they created was too small for them and that they could be the Notre Dame of the West. They were also pissed that their big brother headed west without them. On their way out the door they apparently spearheaded a deal with their old little bitches the WAC. They brokered the agreement between the WAC schools for a $5M buyout for any team that wanted to leave after Boise St. decided to head to the mtn.
In response to the Morons' attempt to stab their mother tit in the back the mtn. invited the two teams to reduce the WAC to nothing. The move said "fine...go independent and work out your deal with the WAC...and in the meantime, we'll just go ahead and kill the WAC. Good luck f-tards." With only 6 teams that would leave the WAC scrambling to add FCS teams to stay a conference, thereby reducing BYU's RPI in all other sports higher than Prairie View A&M's loss total for the 90s. If BYU wants to leave to go indy in football they'll cut off their nose to spite their face.
Quickhits:
The mtn's first invite was to Utah State. Athletics-wise, it was a poor choice. But, if they go indy USU would have permanently been on BYU's schedule, creating a extra home game every other year. USU decided it wasn't in their best interests b/c they're a bunch of dumber Morons and thought BYU could actually pull it off. That's how Nevada came into the picture. In the end, Nevada was the best choice out of the rest of the WAC. They're decent in basketball and have had recent football success. If memory serves me right they beat the U in the Truckstop Bowl a couple years ago.
The WAC is now pondering invites to UTSA, Texas State, UC Davis, Cal Poly, Montana State, and Devry. They' had a long-standing one to UNT.
Reports came out yesterday that UNLV and SDSU were contemplating asking the WAC for an invite. Fine, go with the Morms you tittiebabies. You suck anyway.
The West Coast Conference has offered BYU an invite all other sports. Hawaii is no reportedly considering going indy and joining the WCC in all other sports as well.
LaTech will most likely end up in CUSA.
If BYU stays then UH would be the next logical choice for expansion to give them 12 teams and two divisions. TCU, UH, BYU, and BSU at the top wouldn't be all that bad with FSU, Nevada, and AFA in the middle. It's not great but it's the best that can be done under the circumstances.
The SanFran Examiner published an article today that said the Pac-10 expansion wasn't set in stone and that at least one school might be balking. The article seemed to be more speculation than fact but it wouldn't surprise me considering the snake pit college athletics has turned into. Very unlikely but if true, welcome back Utes. No hard feelings. You did what you had to do. Wish we were in that boat. There's your 12th team. Kick one team out in a year or two, add UH, and you have a conference that could rival the ACC and Big East.
BYU and TU will screw each other 3 times in the next 4 years. What a gayfest that will be. They deserve each other.
ESPN has proven to be the joke...as has Twitter. There are so many rumors out there I can't keep things straight.
One is that ESPN is working a deal with the MTN and CUSA to create a 20-team league with a championship game and the winner going to the new BCS bowl...the Cotton Bowl.
Another has TCU, UH, UTEP, AFA, BSU, FSU, UN, and one other team creating a "best of the rest" conference.
Another says the Big East will expand again with TCU and Memphis.
I'm sure there are others that I'm forgetting but ESPN seems to be the broker behind everything.
Gary Patterson said the other day that we "haven't seen anything yet"; alluding to something big happening soon. I think it's the addition of the Cotton Bowl into the BCS and wherever TCU lands they will be in the conference that gets the auto bid.
This whole thing is just getting insane. I'd rather have BYU stay, add UH, and hope TCU goes undefeated with an opportunity to be in the hunt for the MNC game.
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Post by Ticket Mouse on Aug 24, 2010 11:40:22 GMT -5
Here is what's going to happen:
Next summer A&M will give dueces to the BX once it's clearly evident that Beebe can't deliver the TV money he promised. The SEC will welcome them with open arms.
Texas will try to get OU to split from OSU and go to the P12. The can't. The P12 doesn't want anything to do with anyone else so Texas declares its independence and joins the P12 for all other sports.
The SEC takes one of VaTech, GaTech, or FSU.
With 11 teams the ACC looks north to the Big East. They extend hands to WVA, Pitt, and UConn.
The Big 10/11/12 will gobble up Syracuse and Rutgers to go to 14 teams.
That leaves OU, OSU, BU, TTU, KU, KSU, ISU, and Mizzou to form the Great Plains Conference (nevermind that Missoura and Iowa aren't part of the Great Plains) with an eye for expansion. They'll quickly pick off Memphis from CUSA. Then they'll take Cindy and the Fighting Aborted Petrinos of Louisville to get to 11. With no TU to bully people around and no Aggie as direct conference competition the original 8 of the GPC will have no problem looking to the State of Texas to round out the conference. Logically they'll take either TCU or UH but they may want a perennial patsy in UNT or SMU. I'd hope they'd take TCU but you never know. This would be one heck of a basketball conference and still be pretty strong in football.
North:
ISU, Cindy, Memphis, L'Ville, KU, KSU
South:
OU, OSU, BU, TTU, Mizzou, TCU/UH/UNT/SMU.
A 6th BCS game will be given to the Cotton Bowl with the GPC winner as an auto-bid. Texas will get a BCS deal like Notre Dame with preference given to the Cotton Bowl.
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