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Post by Ticket Mouse on Nov 12, 2008 10:15:48 GMT -5
Fischer, the whole argument was whether or not he should take the KSU job. I'm offering points as to why he shouldn't. The only other school in the B12 I'd make that argument for is ISU-but even then it would be a tougher argument. My point is why would he take a 4-year JUCO job when he'll have MUCH better offers in the next year or two? He has the best recruiting class he's ever had coming up and many are saying it's a top 25 class. If he pulls that off, it will boost his stock even more. Next year they have OOC games against UVA and Ole Miss on the road. If he wins those he'll show teams that he can win on the road in those conferences. If he doesn't, I'm sure Snyder will be more than happy to step aside and let GP assume the job...
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Post by fischer on Nov 12, 2008 10:27:31 GMT -5
No.
You were saying that TCU> KSU. You also said its easier for TCU to go to a BCS game than it is for KSU.
Both points are hilariously ridiculous.
Sure, he may be able to get a better job than KSU (which he has already failed to get once). But that wasn't the argument.
Its like when our jv kids tell us they think they are better than the varsity.
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Post by cowtownmike on Nov 12, 2008 10:56:56 GMT -5
GP's recruiting class will be decimated by his flirtations with other schools. Other teams will use that against him even if he isn't leaving. He will lose all those 2 stars recruits he always signs to June Jones or Todd Dodge.
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Post by cowtownmike on Nov 12, 2008 11:01:36 GMT -5
GP is a K-State alum. This job won't be open next year. It's open NOW. Ask Fischer, as a coach you have to strike while the iron is hot. GP's stock WILL NEVER be higher than RIGHT NOW. To take a chance on waiting until next year is ludicrisp, especially with the very real chance of losing to UVA (midlevel ACC) and Ole Piss (depths of hell of the SEC).
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Post by fischer on Nov 12, 2008 11:08:05 GMT -5
That is true. His stock can only go down from here. Its extremely high right now, and even if he waited a year and went to a BCS game (by some miracle), his stocke wouldn't be much higher. Its not worth the risk. Not to mention, if they screw around and get into a real bowl game, they will get beaten soundly by a run of the mill BCS conference team.
You have to get while the gettin' is good.
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Post by cowtownmike on Nov 12, 2008 11:09:36 GMT -5
Make hay while the sun shines!
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Post by cowtownmike on Nov 12, 2008 11:11:16 GMT -5
Fischer, the whole argument was whether or not he should take the KSU job. I'm offering points as to why he shouldn't. The only other school in the B12 I'd make that argument for is ISU-... Are you finally conceding that Baylor is a better job than TCU? |
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Post by fischer on Nov 12, 2008 11:21:43 GMT -5
There is no question that Baylor is a better gig.
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Post by Ticket Mouse on Nov 12, 2008 11:26:24 GMT -5
Yes, TCU has a path of less resistance. In the last 5 years KSU's conference record is a whopping 12-26. Given the state of both programs and their conference affiliations, it's easier for TCU to have a 1 loss season than it is for KSU to win enough games to win the B12 North, much less win the B12 title game. Yes, in the end KSU is better only b/c of it's conference affiliation but why go there when you will probably have your pick of 20 better jobs?
BTW, in high school we scrimmaged the varsity once and the coach called it after 4 innings b/c we were beating them. I think we just caught them on a bad day b/c they had 1 future major leaguer and two others that played in the minors. He had them running the rest of the day.
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Post by fischer on Nov 12, 2008 11:30:50 GMT -5
TCU has to do more than have a one loss season.
They have to lose that one game to a top 5 team, beat 2 top ten (ranked) teams, and hope that the rest of the BCS conferences aren't top heavy that year.
if the SEC and ACC were normal this year, TCU wouldn't be in the top 15 of anything.
Whereas KSU has to have no help at all. Win 5-6 games in conference, and beat the south champion for an automatic bid. Or take the TCU route and play for an at large bid.
I wasn't talking about baseball. That game involves no physicality.
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Post by The River Assassin on Nov 12, 2008 11:50:23 GMT -5
This thread is greatness, I can't wait for the day Patterson goes the KSU.
If/when that happens I will bet that Stubbs is "busy" at work and can't get on the board for a week or two.
What kills me is TCU is still pissed that they got left out of the Big 12, and Baylor is desperate for a winning season. Why don't we let the two schools switch conferences for two years and see how bad TCU wants out after they go 10-14 playing real teams every week.
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Post by Ticket Mouse on Nov 12, 2008 11:56:07 GMT -5
GP's recruiting class will be decimated by his flirtations with other schools. Other teams will use that against him even if he isn't leaving. He will lose all those 2 stars recruits he always signs to June Jones or Todd Dodge. Just wait...just wait...Okie Light and Petrino are after a few of our verbals. |
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Post by cowtownmike on Nov 12, 2008 12:00:55 GMT -5
Petrino is going to lock up the Maud three. Unless he sees anything better on the Tennessee list.
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Post by Ticket Mouse on Nov 12, 2008 12:23:10 GMT -5
TCU has to do more than have a one loss season. They have to lose that one game to a top 5 team, beat 2 top ten (ranked) teams, and hope that the rest of the BCS conferences aren't top heavy that year. if the SEC and ACC were normal this year, TCU wouldn't be in the top 15 of anything. Whereas KSU has to have no help at all. Win 5-6 games in conference, and beat the south champion for an automatic bid. Or take the TCU route and play for an at large bid. I wasn't talking about baseball. That game involves no physicality. If the SEC and ACC were normal then the Big 12 wouldn't be doing well, the Big East would have a team with a clue, and the Pac 1 would be the Pac 2 or 3. It all evens out. The days of a mid-major just hoping to crack the top 25 are over. With the reduction in scholarships you're always going to have a couple non-BCS schools in the mix. We've seen it the last few years and there's no indication that we'll see anything different from here on out. |
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Post by Ticket Mouse on Nov 12, 2008 12:25:43 GMT -5
Petrino is going to lock up the Maud three. Unless he sees anything better on the Tennessee list. Those three will be Froggie legends. |
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