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Post by fischer on Feb 14, 2012 14:03:37 GMT -5
9-7 Grambling - W
9-15 @kansas - W
9-22 UVA - Probable W
9-29 @smu - Probable W
10-6 ISU - Maybe
10-13 @baylor - Maybe
10-20 TTU- Probable W
10-27 @osu - Loss
11-3 @wvu - Maybe
11-10 KSU - Maybe
11-22 @ut - Loss
12-1 OU - Loss
Most realistic best case, frogs go 8-4
Worst case, frogs go 5-7
Probably go 7-5
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Post by Ticket Mouse on Feb 14, 2012 14:39:44 GMT -5
I think we'll win at UT. I also think we'll win one we shouldn't but probably lose one we should win. ISU could be a trap game coming out of playing at SMU and looking forward to revenge in Waco.
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Post by Ticket Mouse on Feb 14, 2012 14:41:49 GMT -5
UNT's schedule hasn't been released yet. They do play @ KSU 9/15. Wonder what's taking the Sun Belt so long to release their schedule.
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Post by fischer on Feb 14, 2012 15:04:37 GMT -5
What gives you any indication that you'll beat texas? You've already gotten on your knees for them off the field, they return everyone from a great defense, and their offense has to be better than it was this year.
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Post by Ticket Mouse on Feb 14, 2012 15:22:55 GMT -5
I think they're defense is great as well but I don't see any indication that their offense will be better unless some freshmen are field ready.
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Post by fischer on Feb 14, 2012 15:27:08 GMT -5
They signed the consensus no. 1 RB in the nation.
Their OL is all back.
They have some guys who could be huge playmakers at WR.
The big issue is QB. If they ever find a trigger man, they could be really good. As it stands, they'll be better on Offense strictly because their ability to run the football is going to be light years ahead of where it was last year.
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Post by Ticket Mouse on Feb 14, 2012 15:46:26 GMT -5
I'm not doubting Gray's talent at all but I'd be scared hinging the success of my running game on a true freshman. For every freshman that has made a splash from the get-go we can name 10 who were supposed to be the next big thing that amounted to meh at best. TCU once had signed the no. 1 RB in the state and one of the best in the nation. He ended up playing for San Jose State a few years later. From what I see he has the ability to contribute from the start but will he actually get it done?
Also, can they get their offensive scheme figured out? QB was a huge problem but beyond that it seemed like a squad who never found out their identity. Was some of that coaching? Have they gotten that figured out? I think they ranked around 70 in yards per play last year. A lot of question marks remain for Texas. Thankfully for them, their defense should be stellar, which could be their best offensive weapon.
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Post by cowtownmike on Feb 14, 2012 15:53:56 GMT -5
TCU should do well in this edition of the Big 12. I don't see a top ten team in the bunch.
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Post by cowtownmike on Feb 14, 2012 16:07:13 GMT -5
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Post by Ticket Mouse on Feb 14, 2012 16:33:33 GMT -5
I think WVU has top-10 potential. OU is a wild card. I know many Sooners were upset Landry decided to come back. I don't know what they'll look like in '12. I've heard rumors of fighting between the coaches, between the players, and between the players and coaches. If true, it could create a divided lockerroom which could spill out on to the field.
As far as the article, it's not quite as black and white as they portray. I'm not defending UT not being scared...I honestly don't know and I don't care but I have a hard time believing the SEC would allow the LHN to exist in it's current form with the payout they are receiving. ESPN is taking the hit on lack of subscribers, not UT. The LHN could be carried on ZERO providers and they'd still get $30M for 30. Honestly, I don't think it's about making more money...I think it's about making more than everyone else. They'd make a huge percentage more than everyone in the B12 than they would in the SEC. That's what I think it's about.
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Post by fischer on Feb 14, 2012 18:12:31 GMT -5
No, its about power.
Texas would just be another team in the SEC. They want to be able to boss everyone around. If you want an example of that, look at the Thanksgiving Day game.
Also, the LHN is $300m over 15 years I believe. Not thirty for sure.
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Post by The River Assassin on Feb 14, 2012 19:23:19 GMT -5
The LHN deal is $300 mil over 20, so $15 mil per year. But IMG gets part of that 15, so I think tu actually takes in around 10-12 mil.
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Post by fischer on Feb 15, 2012 8:28:23 GMT -5
Now that The Aggies have left the conference and they have been replaced with TCU, and Mizzou is replaced with WVU, look at how pathetic the stadiums in the Big12-2-2+2 are:
Baylor 50,000
Iowa State 55,000
Kansas 50,071
Kansas State 50,000
Oklahoma 82,112
Oklahoma State 60,218
Texas 100,111
TCU 44,358 (with capacity actually falling to closer to 40k)
Texas Tech 60,454
West Virginia 60,000
There are 2 real division 1 football stadiums in the entire conference.
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Post by fischer on Feb 15, 2012 8:45:35 GMT -5
The SEC on the other hand:
Tennessee 102,455
Alabama 101,831
Georgia 92,746
LSU 92,542
Texas A&M 90,079 (renovation plans will put seating over 100k)
South Carolina 80,250
Arkansas 76,000 (56k in their other home stadium)
Mizzou 71,004
Kentucky 67,706
Ole Miss 60,580
Miss. State 55,082
Vanderbilt 39,700
So the SEC has 9-10 big time stadiums. Even the basketball school has a decent stadium.
IF you combined the two lists, the SEC would have 11 of the 13 biggest stadiums, with tu coming in at 3 and OU at 7.
I knew there were some discrepencies, but with the SEC gaining and the Big 12 trading WAY WAY down, it has gotten to be a pretty terrible conference for gameday experience.
The only real gameday experience in the Big 12 now is OU. OSU, tu, tech, tcu, baylor, ku, ksu, and ISU are all well below average. Not sure on WVU
SEC has Tenn, Alabama, Georgia, LSU,Ags, Florida,Aub, S.C., Ark, and Ole Miss that are all top notch gameday experiences, with Mizzou probably just a notch below.
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Post by Ticket Mouse on Feb 15, 2012 11:41:27 GMT -5
Where do you get 40k for ACS? Seating capacity will be 44k. They should be able to sell 5-6k SRO tickets for most games. By next year there should be plans to add a 3rd deck on the east side that will increase capacity by 8-10k. When you fact in SRO we should be around 60k in a couple years. Not too bad when you look at enrollment and total alumni. Only Notre Dame has a better enrollment/football attendance ratio.
Also note that as recently as 2000, MSU's capacity was 40k. In '97 Ole Miss had a capacity of 40k as well and 50k in 2001. In 2000 Ark's capacity was 50k.
What is your classification of 'big time'? 70K? You realize only 31 FBS stadiums have a capacity of 70k, don't you? Of those 31 stadiums you have the LA Coliseum, Rose Bowl, Cal Berkley, Sun Life Stadium (Miami), Legion Field, Qualcomm Stadium (San Diego), and Rice Stadium. Right behind that you have the Superdome at 69K (Tulane) and Lincoln Financial (Temple) with 68k+. So in actuality you have only 20 stadiums that even come close to filling capacity.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Is stadium size supposed to correlate to success on the field or overall gameday experience? Oregon's Autzen stadium only holds 53k and I've had people tell me the place is insane. What constitutes gameday experience? Tailgating? The game itself? Your team winning?
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