sully
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Post by sully on Mar 5, 2010 17:43:11 GMT -5
I looked up his stats for you Craig.
SEASON TEAM G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
1999 Mon 160 610 102 193 37 5 42 131 55 62 14 7 .316 .378 .600 .978
2000 Mon 154 571 101 197 28 11 44 123 58 74 9 10 .345 .410 .664 1.074
2001 Mon 159 599 107 184 45 4 34 108 60 88 37 16 .307 .377 .566 .943
2002 Mon 161 614 106 206 37 2 39 111 84 70 40 20 .336 .417 .593 1.010
2003 Mon 112 394 71 130 20 3 25 79 63 53 9 5 .330 .426 .586 1.012
2004 Ana 156 612 124 206 39 2 39 126 52 74 15 3 .337 .391 .598 .989
2005 LAA 141 520 95 165 29 2 32 108 61 48 13 1 .317 .394 .565 .959
2006 LAA 156 607 92 200 34 1 33 116 50 68 15 5 .329 .382 .552 .934
2007 LAA 150 574 89 186 45 1 27 125 71 62 2 3 .324 .403 .547 .950
2008 LAA 143 541 85 164 31 3 27 91 51 77 5 3 .303 .365 .521 .886
2009 LAA 100 383 59 113 16 1 15 50 19 56 2 1 .295 .334 .460 .794
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fischer
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Post by fischer on Mar 5, 2010 17:49:25 GMT -5
He has gone down in every major category the last 5 years.
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sully
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Post by sully on Mar 5, 2010 17:51:30 GMT -5
Last 3 years, .300 with steadily declining abs, avg, hits, doubles, hrs, rbis and walks.
He better turn that around pretty quick or we're looking at a stat line in '10 like this:
AB - 300
R - 45
H - 80
2B - 10
3B - 0
HR - 12
RBI - 35
BB - 10
SO - 50
AVG - .267
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Post by The River Assassin on Mar 5, 2010 18:32:12 GMT -5
Sully might have just hit the nail on the head right there.
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Post by P. Marf on Mar 5, 2010 19:08:58 GMT -5
Yea if you go on his stats from last year when he was injured. If thats the case then anyone injured last year is gonna fall of the face of the earth. #1 The lowest he has ever batted in his 13 year career (aside from the 9 games his 1st year) is .295. So, The thought that you project him at .267 is ludicrous (he's black). #2 Over the past 10 years there has only been twice where he has had under 400 ABs. #3 10 BBs? So basically cause he got injured for maybe the second time in his career you project him as a washed up injury prone player. I love me some Byrd but the beset season of his career is only better than one of Vlad's 13 seasons (and it was the injured season). So the Byrd love is coming from a mediocre, but exciting season last year. Vlad has a resume. Marlon has never had over 90 RBI or hit more than 20 HR and batted over .300 only 3 times. He is only 2.5 years younger (debatable). If Vlad put up his 2008 numbers, they would be better than Byrds last year. I have to admit I didnt realize this till I saw it, but when looking at Byrds career stats nothing jumps out at you at all. I wish we still had Byrd but we arent still alright at DH with Vlad. He is still respected and the Temple is his best hitting park. Half of this is cause I felt like Vlad needed defending and I wanted to argue, the other half is cause I agree with it. Pow. He has gone down in every major category the last 5 years. That is actually very false. The last 3 years. |
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fischer
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Post by fischer on Mar 5, 2010 19:24:10 GMT -5
he had one up year in the last 5 in some categories. That was four years ago.
He is on his way out.
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Post by P. Marf on Mar 5, 2010 20:34:49 GMT -5
Id say three of those years were considerably above average, and for sure better than anything Byrd has done if you are still on that point.
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Post by fischer on Mar 7, 2010 10:05:10 GMT -5
I don't think you can argue that Vlad isn't on his way down.
Byrd is on his way up. Sure, Vlad had some great years. But so did Nolan Ryan back in the day. I don't hear you saying he should be in the starting rotation now, though.
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Post by P. Marf on Mar 8, 2010 9:30:28 GMT -5
Ok vlad is definitely not going up. But show me where the 32 year old byrd is going up. If his best year is 80 rbi at 31 then there isn't much more he is gonna do. I just don't wanna discount what vlad can do this year.
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fischer
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Post by fischer on Mar 8, 2010 9:45:03 GMT -5
Don't worry, you aren't discounting anything...
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Post by P. Marf on Mar 8, 2010 10:01:05 GMT -5
Well I know I'm not, I rarely do....
My HSO: I wish we would have somehow traded Josh when his stock was through the roof after 2008. I'm not sure about him. His swing looked awful last year.....but so did half the teams on that note.
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Post by fischer on Mar 8, 2010 10:05:39 GMT -5
I think Mike called for that trade back then.
I agree with that. I wish we would have gotten rid of him while we could get something for him.
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Post by The River Assassin on Mar 8, 2010 11:40:16 GMT -5
I'm almost certain Mike called for JH trade when his stock was through the roof. Pretty good call.
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Post by P. Marf on Mar 8, 2010 14:24:13 GMT -5
Yea he did. And I think I may have disagreed back then.
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Post by The Real Doyle on Mar 15, 2010 11:39:15 GMT -5
Vlad is the best player in baseball right now, those stats are rigged.
Byrd sucks like a whore.
Josh is the second best player in baseball right now, those stats are rigged too.
Matt Doyle does NOT know baseball.
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