cowtownmike
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Post by cowtownmike on Jan 8, 2009 10:31:38 GMT -5
I think you are right. Jerry is the man that made them successful. Riiiiiigggggggggghhhhhhtttttttt I wish he would leave, but I seriously doubt he will. As y'all have already pointed out the difference in salaries is not near as much as it used to be. I guess it just depends on the type of guy Stoops is. Is he happy being one of the top dogs at the second level or does he want to be the best in all of football. Jerry is the common thread. You can't deny that. wait...another thing they have in common is both are Arkansas Razorbacks. Come to think of it, that is probably the real reason for their success. |
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Post by The River Assassin on Jan 8, 2009 10:33:44 GMT -5
"Jerry is the common thread. You can't deny that."
For the last 12 years of losing, no I can't deny that.
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Post by fischer on Jan 8, 2009 10:48:38 GMT -5
There probably is something to it, really.
Jerry needs a disciplinarian, yet someone who will let Jerry have his hand in things. He needs a fiery winner, but someone who is not too ego driven to work under Jerry.
College coaches might just fit that bill. The only coaches that have been successul under Jerry are college coaches. The only one who has made college coaches successful, is Jerry.
Look at Jimmy Johnson in Miami for an example of why coaches need Jerry.
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Post by The River Assassin on Jan 8, 2009 10:55:37 GMT -5
Only one college coach has been successful, Barry won with Jimmy's players. Jerry took a gamble on Jimmy and won, then got pissed that Jimmy got all the credit, fired him, and has lost ever since.
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Post by fischer on Jan 8, 2009 11:00:07 GMT -5
By that logic,
Urban Meyer is unsuccessful, so is Bob Stoops and Jim Tressel. They didn't recruit those players that they had when they won the MNC.
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Post by cowtownmike on Jan 8, 2009 11:05:26 GMT -5
Only one college coach has been successful, Barry won with Jimmy's players. Jerry took a gamble on Jimmy and won, then got pissed that Jimmy got all the credit, fired him, and has lost ever since. Biggest misconception of all time and one repeated by Cowboy haters everywhere. |
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Post by The River Assassin on Jan 8, 2009 11:07:59 GMT -5
Since they all still have their jobs I wouldn't say they are unsuccessful, but that is a valid point that they won a title with another coaches players. Of course that will change tonight for Stoops or Meyer.
Would you say Larry Coker was successful at Miami?
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Post by The River Assassin on Jan 8, 2009 11:09:46 GMT -5
Only one college coach has been successful, Barry won with Jimmy's players. Jerry took a gamble on Jimmy and won, then got pissed that Jimmy got all the credit, fired him, and has lost ever since. Biggest misconception of all time and one repeated by Cowboy haters everywhere. Care to expand on that thought? |
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Post by fischer on Jan 8, 2009 11:20:35 GMT -5
I would say he was extremely successful. He won a national title and won a ton of games. Look how piss poor they are since they fired him.
Yet another case of not appreciating what they had.
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Post by cowtownmike on Jan 8, 2009 11:44:48 GMT -5
Jerry was as much a part of drafting players and rebuiling the Cowboys as anyone else in the organization. It's amazing how when anything bad happens it's Jerry's fault, yet when anything good happens Jerry has nothing to do with it.
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Post by Ticket Mouse on Jan 8, 2009 12:07:28 GMT -5
Biggest misconception of all time and one repeated by Cowboy haters everywhere. Care to expand on that thought? Yes, Jerry was jealous and fired him but Jimmy wanted out too. Jimmy gets restless and never stayed anywhere more than 5 years. |
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Post by The River Assassin on Jan 8, 2009 17:35:03 GMT -5
Jerry was as much a part of drafting players and rebuiling the Cowboys as anyone else in the organization. It's amazing how when anything bad happens it's Jerry's fault, yet when anything good happens Jerry has nothing to do with it. I would agree except that there has been very little good over the last 10-12 years. |
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Post by fischer on Jan 8, 2009 17:47:57 GMT -5
Jimmy and Barry are together on PTI right now. Very interesting. They act like they really like each other.
Sidenote- they have joined forces to fight alzheimer's. On the commercials they appear in (you will see them tonight) the guy that is 51 that has alzheimers is the husband of one of my mom's childhood friends. Weird. 51! that sucks.
Not a stubbs name drop, I know, but its all I got.
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Post by The River Assassin on Jan 8, 2009 18:06:45 GMT -5
51 damn that sucks
They were pretty good on pti.
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Post by sully on Jan 9, 2009 11:41:59 GMT -5
If I get alzheimers at 51, shoot me.
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