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Post by fischer on Dec 2, 2008 11:27:15 GMT -5
There might be.
Tell me this...why would a junior in HS in SEC country pick Arkansas over Ole Miss right now?
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Post by cowtownmike on Dec 2, 2008 11:34:22 GMT -5
Facilities.
Coaching.
Fan Support.
Better chance to play at the next level.
Education.
Not having to walk thru a sea of Confederate flags and racists rednecks on the way to the game.
to name a few.
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Post by P. Marf on Dec 2, 2008 11:56:39 GMT -5
But you would have to live in Arkansas....
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Post by cowtownmike on Dec 2, 2008 12:01:56 GMT -5
You sir have obviously never been to Arkansas or Mississippi.
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Post by P. Marf on Dec 2, 2008 12:05:21 GMT -5
I have been to both, Miss was more of a drive through. Arakansas was along time ago. So basically what I'm saying is I have no back-up for myself.
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Post by cowtownmike on Dec 2, 2008 12:06:46 GMT -5
Good point, Craig.
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Post by P. Marf on Dec 2, 2008 12:13:47 GMT -5
The first step is admitting your mistakes.
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Post by fischer on Dec 2, 2008 14:11:00 GMT -5
Coaching. Better chance to play at the next level. It seems to me that Ole Miss is doing more with less than Arkansas is. At the very least, more with equal talent. Nutt has put far more players into the NFL than Petrino. Just saying.
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Post by cowtownmike on Dec 2, 2008 14:18:43 GMT -5
You would be wrong. Ole Miss has twice the talent that Arkansas has due to the fact our previous head coach would rather play pickup basketball games and text his mistress than actually recruit.
Petrino has coached in the NFL and won a BCS bowl game. The right reverand has never even attended a BCS bowl game.
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Post by fischer on Dec 2, 2008 14:43:13 GMT -5
That wasn't the argument. Although, you have said yourself the SEC is a lot tougher than the lowly Big East and beat Wake Forest.
Nutt has coached more college players that got to the NFL than has Petrino. Also, Nutt has recruited more 4 and 5 star players to play for him than Petrino. Also, Nutt recruited a first rounder in last years draft.
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Post by duckbutter on Dec 2, 2008 14:54:11 GMT -5
Coach,
How in the hell do you know all of this crap? I'm impressed. I don't know college football like you guys. I'm not anywhere close to the level you guys are on. Although alot of this witty banter exchange could be taken as a bedtime story, I find it interesting. Please tell..
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Post by fischer on Dec 2, 2008 15:01:45 GMT -5
Being a football coach's son I grew up watching football, playing football, and learning about football.
I worked in recruiting for Texas A&M for 3 yrs and that involved extreme (very extreme) amounts of research and philosophy on how to recruit. We knew what every school was doing recruiting wise.
Now, I'm a coach, and I see things from another perspective. I was the Recruiting Coordinator at Brenham in an extremely successful time. We signed 16 kids to Division one scholarships in my 3 yrs. there. All that means is that every school in the country pops in from time to time to look at your kids, and I am the one who hands them the tape and talks to them about our kids.
This past year, I haven't paid as much attention to recruiting, as I am not the recruiting coordinator at my new school. But I still follow it casually.
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Post by cowtownmike on Dec 2, 2008 15:04:45 GMT -5
That wasn't the argument. Although, you have said yourself the SEC is a lot tougher than the lowly Big East and beat Wake Forest. Nutt has coached more college players that got to the NFL than has Petrino. Also, Nutt has recruited more 4 and 5 star players to play for him than Petrino. Also, Nutt recruited a first rounder in last years draft. I'd like to see some stats on those facts you are throwing out there, Coach. I doubt if Nutt signed (4) five star players in 10 years at Arkansas. If he did, he was forced to hire their high school coach in order to get them. Which first round draft pick are you talking about, Felix or DMAC? You have these two guys in your backfield for 3 years (along with Peyton Hillis) and you CAN'T make a BCS BOWL? That's some serious good coaching. Nutts SEC record after 10 YEARS was barely over .500 at Arkansas. His bowl record was 2-7. Sorry, that's just not good enough.
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Post by fischer on Dec 2, 2008 15:32:23 GMT -5
Look at the SEC the last 3 years when they were there. LSU, Florida, Georgia, Auburn, Tennessee. Remember, only two from one conference can get in. We have to make room for people like utah and Boise State.
Petrino had Pitt, Connecticut, Cinncinnatti, and the like when he was at Louisville.
I understand that 2-7 bowl record isn't great. But its better than no bowl at all, which is where you are this year.
This is what us Ags did to RC. People sometimes need to appreciate what they have. You better hope that running Nutt off doesn't turn into the A&M fiasco.
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Post by cowtownmike on Dec 2, 2008 15:46:54 GMT -5
Better to go for success than settle for mediocrity because you are afraid to fail.
As a fan, I like where Arkansas is going.
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