Baylor

[Ticket Mouse]

Nov 16, 2010 8:12:01 GMT -5 fischer said:

Nov 15, 2010 8:58:19 GMT -5 cowtownmike said:

Going to be tough for a 3 loss team to make a BCS bowl, sir.

The champions of the Big 12 conference are automatically qualified for a BCS game, sir.

The Big East champ will have 4 losses, at least. Pitt could go 6-6 and still win the conference. That's why you'll see TCU accept a BE bid next week...enough of this non-AQ, are we higher than BSU, we had one off game BS. If we have an off year at 9-3 we go to Glendale.

[fischer]

probably a smart move on tcu's part.

Big East is an AQ and easier to win than the Mountain West.

I don't think TCU would be so excited to join any other AQ conference, though.

[Ticket Mouse]

We'd welcome the challenge. The BE was wanting us for football only but that wasn't going to fly. Our other teams would be forced to join the Sun Belt, MVC, or SLC. That wasn't about to happen, especially with most of our teams doing so well and none of those conferences get any exposure in any sports. At least with the MWC all conference sports get good exposure. About 20 baseball games were on TV last year between the mtn., CBSC, and BYU TV.

[The River Assassin]

So is the BE prepared to accept all TCU sports now?

[Ticket Mouse]

I hear that they have wavered on that. The Catholic schools don't want other sports. The footballers do. The footballers will win out. It would create a 17-team basketball league but I've heard for a few years that the BE schools are ready to give Seton Hall the old Temple treatment. But that would entail the other Catholic schools killing one of their own. I think they'll eventually get in with all sports. I think the bottom feeders of the BE would love to tap into the Texas basketball market.

[cowtownmike]

Talk about a bad fit, TCU will never be accepted as a full member in the Big East.

[Ticket Mouse]

Then they can keep their shitty football conference and hope that they are still included in the BCS after 2014.

[cowtownmike]

Why would TCU accept such an offer? It would be a step down for the overall athletic program. Better offers are on the horizon.

[fischer]

TCU doesn't want a better offer. I've said that over and over.

To join a real football conference would mean they go from having a decent chance at an at large BCS spot to almost no chance at an automatic invitation.

TCU wants nothing to do with Big 12, Big 10, SEC, or the Pac 10. They would immediatley be middle of the pac in all of them on a yearly basis.

Even this year they would likely have a loss or two or more just due to depth and the pounding that they would take playing solid teams.

[Ticket Mouse]

Why do you keep saying they wouldn't want into another conference? I think they'd love it. Sure, they may fall to mediocrity for a couple years but I think if they were to join the BXII right now they'd have a great recruiting class in February. Give that class 2-3 years and they'd be great. Follow that up with a couple more great recruiting classes and why wouldn't they expect to compete for the conference championship?

Mike, it's all about $$. The BXII isn't going to come calling any time soon. The BE is probably a dying conference anyway so why not take the money while it's there? The MWC isn't going to get an auto-bid in 2014 and why even wait that long to see if they do? The travel distance isn't much worse than the MWC and it will give us good mejia exposure. It would really improve our basketball team as well. They are looking to upgrade DMC but the MWC opponents don't get people to shell out $$. Teams like Pitt, Georgetown, UConn, Cindy, and Louisville would.

[fischer]

I keep saying it because I think its true.

TCU was in a big time conference once. It was called the SWC and they sucked horribly in it for the last half of the century.

They know they can't compete with OU, tu, A&M, tceh, Baylor, OSU, etc. for recruits if they are in the same conference. They have nothing to offer.

[Ticket Mouse]

Nov 18, 2010 14:48:37 GMT -5 fischer said:

I keep saying it because I think its true.

TCU was in a big time conference once. It was called the SWC and they sucked horribly in it for the last half of the century.

They know they can't compete with OU, tu, A&M, tceh, Baylor, OSU, etc. for recruits if they are in the same conference. They have nothing to offer.

Between 1965 and 2000, the school, administration, and alumni had absolutely zero commitment to winning. Since then, they have gone full throttle. 15 donors put up $120M in 8 months to rebuild Amon Carter Stadium. That's just half of the stadium. The other half will easily be raised as well. The facilities will be far and away better than anything BU, Tech, or OSU can provide (schools they already compete for recruits with) and will be considered among the best in the country. TCU's graduation rates are good. Fort Worth is a great town. Local kids can stay close to home. Their parents can come watch them play in a great new stadium. They already are considered one of the best programs in today's CFB. Why wouldn't they be expected to compete for a title? You can come here or you can go to the wastelands known as Waco, Lubbock, or Stoolwater? Why travel all over the Australian outback when you have a oil well right here?

[fischer]

TCU"s facilities will not be better than Baylor's unless they tear down the facilities they completed a few years ago.

They are brand new and average at best. Baylor's are some of the best in the country. Baylor will not fall behind TCU in an arms race, and TCU can't keep up with any of those other schools money wise.

A little insight... players don't care how "nice" a stadium is. They care about how big it is and how many people actually show up. TCU's stadium severely lacks in that department and the rest of their facilities are sub par compared to the rest of the Big 12.

[Ticket Mouse]

Nov 18, 2010 15:28:22 GMT -5 fischer said:

TCU"s facilities will not be better than Baylor's unless they tear down the facilities they completed a few years ago.

They are brand new and average at best. Baylor's are some of the best in the country. Baylor will not fall behind TCU in an arms race, and TCU can't keep up with any of those other schools money wise.

A little insight... players don't care how "nice" a stadium is. They care about how big it is and how many people actually show up. TCU's stadium severely lacks in that department and the rest of their facilities are sub par compared to the rest of the Big 12.

You just contradicted yourself! Floyd Casey's capacity is 50000. TCU's is 46. They have had three games this year eclipse that amount. Four games were sellouts. Baylor only gets that many when BXII teams come to town and it's usually 30-40% for the other team. FCS is in the ghetto. ACS is in the nicest area in one of the greatest cities in the country.

[fischer]

What I was commenting on is that tcu will not impress recruits with a half full stadium that is nice and has new suites. Their every day facilities, which are brand new, pale in comparison to every big 12 teams facilities.

I agree, Floyd Casey is not a selling point. But Baylor can use their facilities to recruit. Tcu cannot in a head to head battle with a big 12 school