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Post by Ticket Mouse on Apr 16, 2008 10:28:19 GMT -5
Actually Kinsler was charged with an error. The actual scoring should be an error on the catcher. You can't award mental errors. Kinsler may have actually gone to the scorer afterwards and told him it was his fault. At that time it will be at the scorer's discretion to change the scoring. It's happened before. Juando once threatened a scorer after a game to change an error he was awarded.
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Post by Ticket Mouse on Apr 16, 2008 10:28:56 GMT -5
cowtown= correct stubbs= the usual I'll give you an opportunity to retract this statement. |
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Post by Ticket Mouse on Apr 16, 2008 10:30:27 GMT -5
If a runner is stealing second the catcher makes that throw as long as all the other bases are not occupied. You have to trust your infielder will be there. The throw is made while the infielder is getting into position to cover. The catcher doesn't have time to wait until the infielder sets up. COME ON! I understand what you're saying but it falls along the same lines as the assumption of a double play. You just can't do it. |
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Post by fischer on Apr 16, 2008 10:32:24 GMT -5
I retract.
For now.
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Post by cowtownmike on Apr 16, 2008 10:41:20 GMT -5
Yesterday the scorer gave the error to Young. I guess they changed it and charged it to Kinsler.
The point is that it's not the catchers' fault. That's why the fielder was given the error.
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Post by fischer on Apr 16, 2008 10:50:31 GMT -5
I agree. The catcher is taught to throw it. Someone should be there.
I am sure coach stubbs will disagree.
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Post by Ticket Mouse on Apr 16, 2008 11:06:12 GMT -5
I agree. The catcher is taught to throw it. Someone should be there. I am sure coach stubbs will disagree. I agree, it's not the catcher's fault but typically he is given the error. However, all scoring is at the discretion of the scorer. I'm just stating what the rules are. If you throw to an unmanned base, you are given an error. |
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Post by cowtownmike on Apr 16, 2008 11:09:53 GMT -5
I agree. The catcher is taught to throw it. Someone should be there. I am sure coach stubbs will disagree. I agree, it's not the catcher's fault but typically he is given the error. However, all scoring is at the discretion of the scorer. I'm just stating what the rules are. If you throw to an unmanned base, you are given an error. You sir, are wrong. Who was given the error? I rest my case. |
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Post by cowtownmike on Apr 16, 2008 11:30:27 GMT -5
From the MLB rulebook:
10.12 Errors
An error is a statistic charged against a fielder whose action has assisted the team on offense, as set forth in this Rule 10.12.
(a) The official scorer shall charge an error against any fielder:
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8) whose failure to stop, or try to stop, an accurately thrown ball permits a runner to advance, so long as there was occasion for the throw. If such throw was made to second base, the official scorer shall determine whether it was the duty of the second baseman or the shortstop to stop the ball and shall charge an error to the negligent fielder.
Now, I rest my case.
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Post by The River Assassin on Apr 16, 2008 12:09:26 GMT -5
Went to the rule book and everything. I guess you can't be anal retentive without and anus.
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Post by cowtownmike on Apr 16, 2008 12:52:23 GMT -5
Sorry to come off as anal retentive, Mr. Finch. Just trying to support my point.
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Post by The River Assassin on Apr 16, 2008 14:13:48 GMT -5
No sorry needed, I just usually make crap up to prove my point. I might try this finding proof thing from now on.
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Post by sully on Apr 16, 2008 14:52:23 GMT -5
Great job cowtown.
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Post by The River Assassin on Apr 16, 2008 17:58:51 GMT -5
Notice Stubbs stopped posting on this thread.
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Post by Ticket Mouse on Apr 16, 2008 18:10:30 GMT -5
I just now read it. I've been trying to catch up on the general forum. This is the last one I check. I won't admit defeat yet.
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